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Some fantastic fixes/changes Thanks for listening <3

reading, thanks

Thanks for the heads up! Just ran thru one mission of Refuel, and it was awesome -Pings now no bars. -Hack Time was Beautiful -Love the server Browser implementation. -I felt as if it was performing way better. Higher average FPS. ATI 5850 and a quad core. Gonna be busy for a while I hope.

I assume the weapon adjustments weren´t implemented with this patch (didn´t see them listed)?

I assume the weapon adjustments weren´t implemented with this patch (didn´t see them listed)?

Among the big ticket items in this update are a reworked server browser, a fix for the font corruption issue, better server performance, and the recently announced balance tweaks.

sigh, reading is hard. Edit: and Badman clarified, I'm wrong!

I assume the weapon adjustments weren´t implemented with this patch (didn´t see them listed)?

This update includes all the balance adjustments listed in the blog from the other day. Weapons are still to come (for all platforms).

sigh, reading is hard. Edit: and Badman clarified, I'm wrong!

The weapon changes weren´t listed in the link he posted of said balance changes which is why I asked since I had also seen elsewhere that they were in the works. If reading wasn´t so hard you might have noticed this as well. :wink:

well done. thx for listening. keep up!

Nice updates! Hope you will fix the sound disappear problem soon. And also enemy nicknames not shown when downed (you or enemy).

some nice changes but is there any update when we will get a first person spectate mode, objective progress for spectators, working demo record/play and so on? also will there be something like hltv/source tv?

Great patch! Don't get me wrong there are still many things needed like demo support but this update was a very nice reassurance that our feedback is not only listened to but also implemented. Thanks.

So you guys did read my PM. Here I was thinking you ignored me :D

ahah now you will suck on our pub server without your magic h4x cvars :D

please please please please please please please please allow us to change spawn times. PLEASE OH GOD PLEASE AND MAYBE BRINK COMPETITION WON"T DIE.

any new cvar for the hud correction ? that dam crosshair pulsing and white cylce made me mad !!

Still no cutscene or endgame chat though

On of the most important and easiest things to fix, let that be true.

apparently not ! EPIC FAIL ! dam I can't play with this crosshair like maybe 80% of your players ....

Still no first person spectating and no demo recording? Yep, I suppose you guys never intended for this game to be competitive.

3mins tested and its just much better! Just a little more polish and were are there :D

-I felt as if it was performing way better. Higher average FPS. ATI 5850 and a quad core.

Yup same on nvidia, same max fps but I didn't notice the fps drops and freezes I used to have

As others have already said, this is definitely a step in the right direction. The removal of auto-lock when buffing and the improved server browser are the two improvements that impress me the most. The server browser still seems to be missing the obvious option of hiding full servers, but other than that, it seems pretty good. I think the removal of auto-lock is pretty important because it seems to be an improvement that was specifically requested by the PC community. And I'm glad to see that SD listened. First-person spectating, better shooting characteristics, demo support, improved sound localization, and a much better player-to-player communication framework (in-game chat, post-game chat, vsays, etc.) are the some of the other highly awaited and almost universally desired improvements that I think would help to make this game a lot better and more popular. I would love to see any of those things implemented in a near-future update.

great update, i was really hoping for the ping and the new server browser looks much better and it's good to know that you're working on weapon adjudments, as everyone said this is a step in the right direction, now start sprinting and give us some demo recording :tongue:

Perhaps SD expected us to be using in game VOIP instead of chat at the end of rounds? In-game VOIP works quite well, thankfully (I still want end-of-round chatting, of course).

I don't know if that question is supposed to be sarcastic and rhetorical or neither. If it was a serious question, then I sure hope the answer is no. Text chat is such staple in online PC games and so easy to do right that it's pretty much unforgivable for a PC game not to do it right these days. It's pretty simple: In general, PC gamers want to be able to chat via text easily and effectively at any point during the online gaming experience. In Brink, there are too many moment when you can't chat via text at all even though you are connected to a server with other players. And when you CAN chat via text in those servers, it virtually never feels effective. Plus, everyone who plays this game on PC presumably has a keyboard. Not everyone has a mic, and those that do have a mic might not feel like using it in-game for whatever reason. VOIP is also important, but I don't really think it should be conflated with text chat. Each needs to be supported properly in its own way.

finaly hack objs are not a drag :) btw badman, is your ingame name badmanSD by any chance? :) (PC) played with someone with this name on one of the US servers, he had a bad ping...

+first person spec +demos + More server variables for spawn times etc + Different crosshair selection. And of course sdk.

+first person spec +demos + More server variables for spawn times etc + Different crosshair selection. And of course sdk.

+hitsounds head and body +improve gameplay sound or narrow the directional hit indicators. +increase headshot multiplier and increase lateral speed +include the hyperblaster as a heavy weapon in the upcoming DLC *cough*

Wait, so VOIP works now (without requiring cfg tweaks)?

That does not mean it is working. The default volume settings being set to -6 effectively negate it entirely. So basically nothing has changed in terms of VOIP.. great. EDIT: Speaking in terms of the general server population being able to use it, not for specific persons who tweak it. In my experience VOIP is rarely if ever used on regular PUB servers.

haa, this update is a good step into the right direction, we're close to a real Gold status :cool: still tons of things to fix/add (text chat is really missing), I hope more patches will come :)

Yes, an improved server browser. (y)

Definitely step in the right direction. In my opinion most important suggestions: 1)VIOP, Chat anytime, option to remove videos/commentary/congratulations screen 2)Vsays 3)Demo recording + first person view 4)Allow more console commands for us to mess around with Perhaps. But this isnt enough and its not convenient. Also the problem is the warning messages which spam many lines and cause havoc in the console.

i know... but at least u can chat :) waiting for chat during intermissions

haa, this update is a good step into the right direction, we're close to a real Gold status :cool: still tons of things to fix/add (text chat is really missing), I hope more patches will come :)

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Good work guys! Keep the flag flying!

Well played, will test tonight :)

Fix your bloody game finally,performancewise.It's not funny anymore.

Game runs beautifully for me, on a GTX 280. Had you considered that it might be your graphics card manufacturer letting you down with bad drivers? :) Cheers for the update SD - will test it tonight hopefully. The removal of auto-look is a great step for me - now we just need separate binds for abilities/actions and better/faster "target focus" code, and medic might finally be fun to play :)

Game runs beautifully for me, on a GTX 280. Had you considered that it might be your graphics card manufacturer letting you down with bad drivers? :) Cheers for the update SD - will test it tonight hopefully. The removal of auto-look is a great step for me - now we just need separate binds for abilities/actions and better/faster "target focus" code, and medic might finally be fun to play :)

Do you reall think one driver can magically give me a 50-60 steady FPS when ATI has a new driver out? There is something wrong on SD's side too.I highly doubt that it's only ATI's fault.

Game is still a mess performancewise. ...

What exactly is wrong with game performance? I think the majority of people have it fine now. There are some servers that have ping spikes and lag that is true. But the majority is fine.

Not just your favourite server, it's pretty essential if you want to play with friends.

Anyone else experiencing 2-3sec game freeze when someone joins or leaves server?

today I played on two servers. one was okay. the other where it was freezing and the character was dragging from lag spikes. I never experienced it this bad before. I was thinking its just the servers fault since the other server didnt have the problem,/

Anyone else experiencing 2-3sec game freeze when someone joins or leaves server?

I had that before on 2-3 servers. Seemed server setting specific.

Great update SD, look forward to giving it a whirl when I get home later. And +1 for the server queuing :)

Do you reall think one driver can magically give me a 50-60 steady FPS when ATI has a new driver out? There is something wrong on SD's side too.I highly doubt that it's only ATI's fault.

Seen it happen in a completely different game. This is the 3rd game I've seen that has had issues with certain models of ATI cards. All games have slowly gotten better as ATI have released newer drivers (and not as teh games have gotten patched). The ATI driver guys have really screwed the pooch on some of their drivers. I never trusted them once AMD got their hooks in. They do good hardware but their software guys need a kick in the pants!

Do you reall think one driver can magically give me a 50-60 steady FPS when ATI has a new driver out? There is something wrong on SD's side too.I highly doubt that it's only ATI's fault.

Did you apply the ATI hotfix to 11.5b? Ever since I applied the hotfix I got a decent performance and yesterdays gamepatch added another 10-20 fps (depending on the gameplay situation). I have a steady 45-50+ fps count now in 1080p with aa enabled and high details running on a several years old e6300 system with 2 GB ram and an ATI 6850 graphics card that's slower than the 58x0 series of ATI. (w/o weapon model, with model on it's noticably higher fps - and that's the minimum, it's mostly higher)

I was wondering whether the "AllocRenderModel called from a different thread for ..." bug has also been fixed without being listed explicitely. Other than that as many people already stated, the update was a big step into the right direction, which should have happened before release. I guess the release had to come fast due to commercial necessities, but to release such a bugged game can kill a reputation quickly. It's just too noticable that time ran out when the console game was quickly ported for pc. I just hope you didn't destroy the playerbase before there even was one to speak of. You better introduce some free weekends or something once you patched the remaining major issues to get some new players to the game before the game dies on pc.

Yes - it's happened with games in the past, and there's no reason for it not to happen again :) NV users are unaffected by performance problems it seems, unless they own 5xx series cards. That isn't something going wrong with the game - that's GPU-specific, and SD has nothing to do with either GPUs or drivers. When a GTX 280 outperforms a GTX 5xx with a new game, who do you think is to blame hmm? :) I see no logical reason to blame SD for what appear to be poor implementations of OpenGL driver code - a common and well-documented problem for ATI, over the years.

Just wanted to tell you - and especially those at SD responsible for working on that stuff - that I am using a GTX 560 Ti and never had ANY problems with Brink performancewise. Got the game two weeks ago. If you, SD, need my complete specs to look into what's wrong with certain graphic cards, tell me and Im happy to share em. Oh, and thanks a lot for that patch! But I want to add to what's still missing from the game: I think there's still no option to remove favourite servers, right? It's just a tiny thing, but you still should add that.

Nice to see some positive feedback regarding performance, especially from two groups (NV 5xx and ATI ) that initially seemed to be affected quite badly :) I can appreciate that it seems logical to blame a game dev when most games seem fine, and only their product has issues - but that still doesn't mean it's the game dev's fault. One of these days, people will understand that - I hope :) While we still have OpenGL engines in use though, I think the problems will continue - more so for ATI owners than NV owners.

Mine are in the range of 20-30 FPS with ATI 5870. Lowest resolution and settings.

wow, thanks for the tip. you got nvidia, huh? hell, i even tested a 640 x 480 resolution and i had around +5 more fps than before, while they were still dropping and the game was lagging and the aiming and movement was not responsive at all due to the framedrops. 5850 here and my frames drop to ~20-30 on resort in open areas as usual. nothing has changed for me, got the newest drivers and sheet like that. hoping for catalyst 11.6 to fix it, else i'm out for good since i'm interested in the competitive side of this game. but maps like reactor are hardly playable when your fps suddenly drop to ~30-40 when you are in a fight or when you enter a certain area of the map.. SIGH

If the catalysts are fixing the issues then start shouting at ATI to get their ass into gear. They're probably not supporting something properly.

Thanks for the server changes But i have one question net_serverSnapshotDelay 3 What does that exactly do when i make it higher? Does it effect the game? Because i am just running private servers for competition players. If it doesn't effect the players i would like to make it higher.

Thanks for the server changes But i have one question net_serverSnapshotDelay 3 What does that exactly do when i make it higher? Does it effect the game? Because i am just running private servers for competition players. If it doesn't effect the players i would like to make it higher.

When you lower it (not increase it, increase means a bigger delay between snapshots), the server generates more snapshots. This increases CPU and network usage (upstream for the server, downstream for the clients) while providing the client with more snapshots to run prediction of. In general generating a single snapshot every 3 frames is just fine, the client prediction code deals with this very well. In theory you could get less prediction errors by pushing out more snapshots, but in practise when you take the prediction done for latency into account as well, there will not be much of a noticeable difference.

Ditto. What you got for CPU? Running C2D @ 2.4ghz. It shouldn't be this way, but its appearing that cpu plays a big role in the performance of this game.

An Intel C2D 2.4ghz is the minimum spec for BRINK. With that you're almost certainly going to be CPU limited.

Ditto. What you got for CPU? Running C2D @ 2.4ghz. It shouldn't be this way, but its appearing that cpu plays a big role in the performance of this game.

Same boat prepatch(not tested with the latest yet) with a c2d 3gig an a 4870, oddly the 10.12 drivers give me a more stable performance (a roundish 40 with the fps config @ 1200x800). Having seen BF3 at E3 Im kinda loathed to even contemplate upgrading anything till September.

great job SD hope the rest will follow soon and we get the pc game we waited for