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thewonderfulcar
6th October 2006, 15:08
I was expecting it to be pretty meh, but good god, it's awful.
Desoxy
6th October 2006, 15:27
I was expecting it to be pretty meh, but good god, it's awful.
Exactly: A reskinned conquest mode, far too fast overheating weapons, having to unlock even basic abilities such as reviving - these are just some of the things that make me not to like this game. It is simply no fun to play... :zzz:
Gimme ETQW already, I'm done with this crap... :moo:
Joe999
6th October 2006, 15:38
i don't even bother to try that type of gameplay again, not even if they'd release the game for free.
sledGe
6th October 2006, 16:15
i don't even bother to try that type of gameplay again, not even if they'd release the game for free.
same for me ! :lol:
RosOne
6th October 2006, 17:13
Yes, I did. Besides that it's bugged here and there, looses connection the EA server and disconnects me constantly, doesn't save my controls config and overall lacks any type of real gameplay it is funny. Couple-days type of funny.
It's the same with movies, if you expect a movie to be completely crappy it turns out not-that bad ;)
Brandon
6th October 2006, 17:20
I just play it for the fun of how much its bad :tapir: :tapir: :tapir:
Mavrik347
6th October 2006, 17:26
I was a VIP BETA Tester... Put it this way, I wont be rushing to DL it. I may DL it when all the server loads go down just to see what else they have put in.
jimb0
6th October 2006, 17:27
does it have starforce?
Obli
6th October 2006, 18:27
Why am I almost glad it sucks? I'm such a fanboy and I love being right...! :D
SCi-Fi
6th October 2006, 19:21
friends have just played it and out of 10 games played they crashed out 10 times...
JBRAA
6th October 2006, 20:16
friends have just played it and out of 10 games played they crashed out 10 times...
Same here.
Florisjuh
7th October 2006, 07:13
The game wont even start for me.. A new installation doesnt work while I'm able to play games like CSS and DoD:S without too many lag problems :(
Players who have the Windows security update KB917422 installed may suffer from an application error when running the Battlefield 2142 demo. This error can be solved by uninstalling the KB917422 update.
Nice, EA wants you to make your PC open to hackers by removing critical patches!
Sir. Eden
7th October 2006, 07:40
The game wont even start for me.. A new installation doesnt work while I'm able to play games like CSS and DoD:S without too many lag problems :(
Players who have the Windows security update KB917422 installed may suffer from an application error when running the Battlefield 2142 demo. This error can be solved by uninstalling the KB917422 update.
Nice, EA wants you to make your PC open to hackers by removing critical patches!
If your running windows you deserve to be open to crackers (its not hackers :) )
SCi-Fi
7th October 2006, 08:46
I played it last night with friends cos i had to have a go atleast
and it looked very cheap and tacky, it just looked like a game that
has been put together very quickly cos they are scared of Quake Wars
So they should be, a game of futuristic wars it aint by a long way...
For me the colors were all wrong and I felt that is the reason why it made it
all look cheap and tacky...
I found myself bored with the feeling of not having accomplished
anything even though we had won a titan game..
Ragnar_40k
7th October 2006, 09:03
does it have starforce?
The other BF games had SafeDisc, so my guess is that it will have SafeDisc too: http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/gamedb.php?letter=B
Isabel Lucas
7th October 2006, 09:52
I'd rather lick my A$$ than buy another EA game.
More of the same old nerfed kiddy sh*t.
1942 rocked, everything since then has been total shite apart from the BF2 demo, bugs aside, and even that had poor accuracy.
Roll on ETQW, bankruptcy to EA!!
Ragnar_40k
7th October 2006, 10:27
If your running windows you deserve to be open to crackers (its not hackers :) )
That is a very stupid statement.
kamikazee
7th October 2006, 11:54
1942 rocked, everything since then has been total shite apart from the BF2 demo, bugs aside, and even that had poor accuracy.Mods like Desert Combat were a lovely improvement on BF1942. And the intro movie was quite impressive!
Desoxy
7th October 2006, 12:12
And the intro movie was quite impressive!
The music of 1942 was the best in the whole franchise - all the other ones only were cheap copies... :moo:
GlobalWar
7th October 2006, 12:26
Played it too..i must say i was very surprised i actually could hit someone right in front of me. In BF2 my bullets always went the other way and killed my team mates. I only crashed 5 times during a 1.5 hour game so thats not bad for an EA game is it?
I will play it some more just to fool around with the vehicles and will prolly get bored after a day or 3.
My conclusion: EA has tried to steal from QW but they have failed :).
The alpha of QW felt WAY better (in every aspect) then this demo version of BF2142 .
Slime
7th October 2006, 17:14
I wouldn't even get BF2142 if it was free. It's really awful by the looks of the demo and it will only get worse when the stat padders join in the full game with the ranks and unlocks. All the maps in BF2142 are also uninteresting.
I can't believe EA hasn't learned yet from their mistakes and are still using that rush and get the cash rule.
Brandon
7th October 2006, 17:30
They Rushed BF2142 WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAY!!!! too much. They just made the game in about 6 months (not sure , but something like that) And the Beta was way too short too. They need to learn the basics of how to make good games. HL2 is an exellent game for example , and it took long to make.
GlobalWar
7th October 2006, 21:20
I think Paul and Kevin took at least 6 months to only think about the game :)
kamikazee
7th October 2006, 21:23
Not to speak about the amount of Belgian beverages involved. :D
jimb0
7th October 2006, 21:40
GlobalWar: according to interviews and such, the idea has been going around between them right after ET, so they probably took a little bit more time getting the concept done. i think i heard locki talking about '1 year' of design prior to starting development, but i'm not too sure on that.
Isabel Lucas
8th October 2006, 09:08
Played it too..i must say i was very surprised i actually could hit someone right in front of me. In BF2 my bullets always went the other way and killed my team mates. I only crashed 5 times during a 1.5 hour game so thats not bad for an EA game is it?
I will play it some more just to fool around with the vehicles and will prolly get bored after a day or 3.
My conclusion: EA has tried to steal from QW but they have failed .
The alpha of QW felt WAY better (in every aspect) then this demo version of BF2142 .
Yeah but do you really trust EA?
BF2 at demo was a great game bugs and poor accuracy aside. Then they changed it so that today it doesn't even resemble anything it did originally at the demo stage gameplay wise, nerf after nerf, after nerf. Everything was intended until kiddies moaned then everything EA had previously apparently supported became an exploit and was nerfed out. Same with the vehicles. The Black Hawk owned as it should - there was even a nice little single shot sraw kill available which helped retain the balance. There was also the fact that it could be taken down in seconds by 2 vodniks working together. Kiddies didn't work together and hadn't got the skill with the sraw, and cried so EA took out the 1 shot kill (exploit - apparently AT weapons don't destroy helos), nerfed the BH guns so u couldn't hit anything anymore and then weakened the armour so much that the thing became a flying death trap which is why its now left alone on the helo pad on most maps or is a short flight and bail as soon as you see anything unfriendly weapon. No one uses it as it was intended anymore. just typical of EA's changes throughout the whole game, and typical of their attitude of listening to small kiddies who cry about the fact that anything in the game takes some skill to master.
Personally, I have no reason to believe EA won't do the same with 2142. Make a nice game at demo, then nerf it once everyone's bought it.
I'm just hoping this is not the SD mentality. I get the impression it's not from what I've always read on here so far.
I certainly know I won't ever buy another EA game in living memory. They know exactly where they can stick 2142, Crysis and every other game they're developing. I spend my money freely but wisely and any company that offends me, never sees another penny of it. Oh and EA in case your reading this, just for the record, I only ever bought EA titles and I bought every single game in the BF series, never again!
jah
8th October 2006, 11:19
no sorry, i don't usually install spyware or crapware on my computer.
J
bandit5k
8th October 2006, 11:34
Here's what it is:
Battlefield 2 with worse gameplay, new maps, new models and more crashes.
Also, during the demo I got booted out of the game every 10th minute because I lost connection to the EA Master Server. Why the hell would it need such a devoted connection to the master server? Long story short, a demo is something that's supposed to give you a teaser of the game to come. If this is a teaser of the game to come, I don't want to play the game. I've purchased a copy of Battlefield 2, so I have something I can play with some friends and I can say that I doubt I'll buy Battlefield 2142 unless pressured into it by me peers.
Dice should never make a game again, ever.
RoXxOrS
8th October 2006, 12:17
here ill post you what a ea representative told an interviwer when aked about the advertising bill boards in bf2142 'the customers benefit in the long run' because the money ea (CONSUMES) from lucrative advertising deals will be used for fuure ea sequals and booster packs for US TO BUY .no doubt having to pay 10£ for a new tank which causes your game to crash worse so even thought ea are getting more money game prices will not come down. obviously as ea have to pay for all those seqauls to games for the next 10 years like fifa,nhl and madden just repeating the same formula with a few touch ups graphically
I LOVE YOU EA ALL YOUR BUISSNESS MEN DESTRYOING GAMING praise the lord for sd to smash eas precious bf series
kamikazee
8th October 2006, 12:58
I think SD is more interested in bringing out a good game. If the game would give a death blow to the BF series, it would only be a mere side-effect.
JBRAA
8th October 2006, 14:50
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/bab2256495be73291e0e727bb6672503/full.png
jimb0
8th October 2006, 14:50
Battlefield 2 with worse gameplay, new maps, new models and more crashes.
i think this sums it up pretty well. i've just tested it and i was surprised they managed to make gameplay worse than it was on bf2. it's pretty crap. the titan mode is a joke.
even on crowded servers i felt like i was playing with 2 or 3 people and running around aimlessly. no wonder bf2 players think 24-32 players is too few for et:qw: they need 64 players just to feel like they're playing against half a dozen people...
kamikazee
8th October 2006, 15:05
I want to see the ex-BF2 players' faces when they see how overcrowded a 32+ server is.
RivrStyx
8th October 2006, 15:46
Played 2142 and it did suck. To many vehicles, balance blows, choppy, and was cartoonish. But to be fair they aren't stealing from QWs... Its pretty much BF2 but futuristic and probably as buggy. Seems more like QWs is using some elements from them but thats besides the point...i'm sure QWs will be the better and more balanced game. Plus QWs is keeping the comp community in mind this time so i read. I just wish it was here but i hear its pushed to may 2007 now so i have to put up with this playing BF2 and 2142 trash until then... which sucks. I've had a QWs server on hold but going to use the credit for a shitty 2142 server because who knows how long its going to be for QWs and no other choices out there atm.
BTW i play on 16-32 player bf2 servers and always plenty of action since the maps scale to the number of players... but it is buggy which they seem to not be able to fix, inconsistent as far as aiming, balance is horrible, not to mention EA/Dice changing the gameplay every 5 minutes. Problem is its all thats out there right now along with its bastard spawn 2142 now.
Get out those whips and chains and get QWs out the door :) ... this EA/Dice trash is killing me
Sauron|EFG
8th October 2006, 16:16
Didn't play it, just read the readme and had a blast. ;)
In order to play the Battlefield 2142 demo online, you must have the following ports open in your firewall.
TCP 443
TCP 17475
UDP 27900
UDP/TCP 29900
TCP 80
TCP 4711
UDP 27901
UDP 1500-4999
UDP/TCP 1024-1124
UDP 29900
UDP/TCP 27900
UDP 16567
UDP 55123-55125
UDP/TCP 18000
UDP/TCP 18300
TCP 18510
Excuuuuuuse me? :P
[]v[]
8th October 2006, 17:23
No, been to busy playin Rick Dangerous in flash.
http://rickdangerousflash.free.fr/
ouroboro
8th October 2006, 19:23
All sources point to "suck." I probably won't bother.
Zhou Yu
8th October 2006, 19:36
I was worried that there would be a fight between bf2142 and et:qw but after playing the bf2142 demo it's a joke, roll on et:qw
DG
8th October 2006, 20:43
Didn't play it, just read the readme and had a blast. ;)
In order to play the Battlefield 2142 demo online, you must have the following ports open in your firewall.
[huge list]
Excuuuuuuse me? :P
I particularily liked:
Players who have the Windows security update KB917422 installed may suffer from an application error when running the Battlefield 2142 demo. This error can be solved by uninstalling the KB917422 update.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917422
I'll open up my firewall and remove security updates to play a game, very sensible advice from computing professionals.
SCDS_reyalP
8th October 2006, 21:58
FWIW, I didn't have to open any additional ports to play, and I certainly don't have 443 and 80 open to incomming connections. No trouble with the KB9174222 update either.
The infantry combat is still pretty much like BF2. The netcode and movement is also pretty much the same. Neither of those are good things IMO, but I guess some people like them.
I would say the Titan game mode is a clear improvement over the original conquest mode. It makes for a lot less garbage time (since you still have some chance of winning even if you didn't do well in the hump-the-flags stage), and a more focused battle at the end. Being able to spawn onto transport vehicles means a lot less time spent walking, which is a Good Thing. OTOH, spawning in a vehicle right as it blows up isn't particularly fun. It would be nice if the spawn map showed you the health of the vehicle at least.
The only real bug I noticed is that the user/password dialog doesn't allow you to use certain characters in your password, even though they are valid for the ea website.
RivrStyx
9th October 2006, 00:16
I didn't need to open any ports either or had a problem with the KB9174222 update. I have crashed twice to desktop since yesterday, which I only occasionally did in BF2, and needed a D3Dx9_29.DLL file to play... and see others needed this also. Thought i was up to date on my DX stuff. Forgot to mention before the movement is some clunky crap... as in BF2.
jimb0
9th October 2006, 00:33
well, to be fair, i didn't have to open or uninstall anything (just be sure to add ea/gamespy servers to my peerguardian list), i didn't have any crash at all, i didn't have any directx problem (and i was under the impression that my dx version was pretty old, i definitely don't have the latest one).
the problem was really with the gameplay. there's nothing to be "fixed", because it was designed that way, and it sucks.
in my opinion, of course. your mileage may vary.
Isabel Lucas
9th October 2006, 00:52
well, to be fair, i didn't have to open or uninstall anything (just be sure to add ea/gamespy servers to my peerguardian list),
Gamespy Arcade is Spyware - scan your pc with any good av or antispyware program and it will be detected
ouroboro
9th October 2006, 01:50
See what happens when you cut corners on the engine? It's like the foundation of a house, and you should never skimp on your foundation. id Software technology just feels right. A discerning player can always tell whether or not a game has id's stuff somewhere in it's lineage. This is why MoH:AA felt great on it's Q3 foundation, but BF1942 felt like shit on the unproven Refractor 2 engine. It's also why MoH:PA tanked: I didn't follow the news and so was unaware of the engine change from Q3 to Lithtech (the same engine that gives FEAR it's detached feel), but I immediately felt that something was "wrong" when I played it.
If this is a horserace, BF2142 is hobbled straight out of the gate. ET:QW has a strong bloodline. All that's required is refinement, and SD is in the process of that training now. The Battlefield series is sickly and should be put down; you can't train a sick horse.
Rhoades
9th October 2006, 02:27
See what happens when you cut corners on the engine? It's like the foundation of a house, and you should never skimp on your foundation. id Software technology just feels right. A discerning player can always tell whether or not a game has id's stuff somewhere in it's lineage. This is why MoH:AA felt great on it's Q3 foundation, but BF1942 felt like shit on the unproven Refractor 2 engine. It's also why MoH:PA tanked: I didn't follow the news and so was unaware of the engine change from Q3 to Lithtech (the same engine that gives FEAR it's detached feel), but I immediately felt that something was "wrong" when I played it.
If this is a horserace, BF2142 is hobbled straight out of the gate. ET:QW has a strong bloodline. All that's required is refinement, and SD is in the process of that training now. The Battlefield series is sickly and should be put down; you can't train a sick horse.
lol nice analogy.
SCDS_reyalP
9th October 2006, 02:45
What amazes me is that EA/Dice could take care of a lot of the minor annoyances without that much trouble. Simple things like the menu taking 30 seconds to load or unload, which has been there ever since bf1942. While the feeling of infantry movement might require a lot of work to fix, you'd expect they could incrementally improve it over 3 generations of the game.
jimb0
9th October 2006, 03:07
well, to be fair, i didn't have to open or uninstall anything (just be sure to add ea/gamespy servers to my peerguardian list),
Gamespy Arcade is Spyware - scan your pc with any good av or antispyware program and it will be detected
i don't think you understood my post well. i don't have gamespy arcade, and i don't have gamespy 'spyware'.
when using peerguardian, one must unblock certain ea/gamespy ip ranges because they're the servers used by the game's master server, login and authentication -- because it's the gamespy company who manages bf*'s lists and servers.
this is not related to gamespy arcade or any other game browser application. the point of my post was saying i had no security/stability problem whatsoever; all i had to do was make sure i had the ip ranges allowed connection... same as all multiplayer games who use master list servers, and the same i'd need to do no matter which server browser i used anyways.
but I immediately felt that something was "wrong" when I played it.
i know how you feel. it's not easy to explain, but some games "feel" right to me, while others "feel" wrong, as if they're unresponsive. for example, while f.e.a.r. looked like a good game, it was so strange to play - as if the whole movement was lagged, even on a fast computer - that i never got into the game. bf2 was the same, and bf2142 is a tad worse for me. games based on id's engines, on the other hand, always *felt* right. i don't know if that's because i'm more used to them (having played everything since doom1, specially quake*), but i always think they're much more fluid than everything else on the market. ut is also okey, although dodging stops me from liking it too much... but the rest of the engines just feel strange.
Hakuryu
9th October 2006, 04:02
I'm thinking about downloading the BF 2142 demo, but can't seem to motivate myself. I still remember why I quit BF2 with crazy hit detection and firing cones, and air ownership.
You just cant hit what you shoot at in BF2 consistently, and when missing with 5 shotgun blasts a guy 10 feet from me with his back turned...well it pisses me off, especially when the problem persists through all patches.
2142 uses the BF2 engine, and apparently all the bug's and engine flaws like non-registering shots are still there. I don't think I want to fight the engine, not to mention the fun in setting up the keybinds in that mess they call a UI.
C'mon Quake Wars! :clap:
Joe999
9th October 2006, 04:07
If this is a horserace, BF2142 is hobbled straight out of the gate. ET:QW has a strong bloodline. All that's required is refinement, and SD is in the process of that training now. The Battlefield series is sickly and should be put down; you can't train a sick horse.
if i may add: if this were a horserace, then BF2142 would be a cow, in fact of type EA's cashcow decorated with twinkling stars n stripes, which already crossed the starting line while QW is a steed, sunbathing in it's beauty at the starting line, well knowing that it will easily catch on that cow. still, some people bet on that cow because it already started moving ... :D
RivrStyx
9th October 2006, 04:52
What amazes me is that EA/Dice could take care of a lot of the minor annoyances without that much trouble. Simple things like the menu taking 30 seconds to load or unload, which has been there ever since bf1942. While the feeling of infantry movement might require a lot of work to fix, you'd expect they could incrementally improve it over 3 generations of the game.
The red/blue name bug has been there forever and still not completely fixed even though every patch says it is. How hard is that to fix? Not sure what their deal is. Maybe to busy implementing vehicle drops or something instead of fixing the existing bugs and long load and unload times.
Also if you read BF2 forums, at least the ones i've been on, I don't see complaining about the movement which blows me away. Almost as if all the hardcore BF players, and there's alot of em, haven't ever played anything else to know the difference maybe.
The Pope
9th October 2006, 05:01
if i may add: if this were a horserace, then BF2142 would be a cow, in fact of type EA's cashcow decorated with twinkling stars n stripes, which already crossed the starting line while QW is a steed, sunbathing in it's beauty at the starting line, well knowing that it will easily catch on that cow. still, some people bet on that cow because it already started moving ... :D
The world needs cow racing. It would be the best spectator sport ever.
Nail
9th October 2006, 05:25
why are there BF2142 threads here, it's not a SD game, go bitch on their forums, these forums are for whining about ET:QW demo release :wink:
Lanz
9th October 2006, 08:27
v[]]No, been to busy playin Rick Dangerous in flash.
http://rickdangerousflash.free.fr/
Damn it! Why did you show me that link?! I just can't stop playing, I loved Rick Dangerous when I had my old Amiga!
jah
9th October 2006, 08:50
why are there BF2142 threads here, it's not a SD game, go bitch on their forums, these forums are for whining about ET:QW demo release :wink:
smartest reply on this thread, you deserve a :beer:
J
RivrStyx
9th October 2006, 10:25
why are there BF2142 threads here, it's not a SD game, go bitch on their forums, these forums are for whining about ET:QW demo release :wink:
Pass the time while we wait? Periods are our friends btw.
GlobalWar
9th October 2006, 10:54
I am already bored of the BF2142 demo (have played it for max 4 hours). Gameplay sucks in a way i can not desribe.
In BF2, when bored, i always had the possibility to just sit on a hillside and enjoy the scenery. To bad the scenery of the demo map sucks even harder then the gameplay.
So about the "pass the time" issue. Next? Quake-wars beta/demo? please?
No, i promissed myself NOT to beg, just wait untill "it's done"..
Speaking of waiting, this is the longest wait in my life.
Some other long waits in my life for those who are intrested.
Every school year waiting for summer vacation: 10+ months,
Military service: 12 months
My house to be build: 11 months
My 2 kids to be born: 9 months
My new Volvo to be delivererd: 10 months
Quake-Wars, beta, demo, anything: 17 months and counting...:(
But i have learned the longer you wait the better it is :S
nUllSkillZ
9th October 2006, 11:03
Haven't played it yet.
But would like to take a look.
Me thinks it will not run with Wine/Linux.
Desoxy
9th October 2006, 11:20
Me thinks it will not run with Wine/Linux.
I doubt that very much, they didn't even bother to release a linux dedicated server.. :moo:
And after playing the demo for some time I made the discovery that even watching gameplay movies of etqw countless times is already more fun.. :uhoh:
Redh3lix
9th October 2006, 11:40
lol, i liked it.
They're updating the master server's hardware or something to that effect because they didn't expect so many people to dl the demo (which you and I know is complete bollox).
Other than a few glitches I experienced at first with connections, I've played a good few times now and enjoyed it. Was a good laugh. I will be buying this and ETQW.
Bongoboy
9th October 2006, 13:36
*Hat off in awe of Rick Dangerous
JBRAA
9th October 2006, 13:53
Rick Dangerous on amiga 500 and a joystick on a 21" tv in your own room. Thats everyones boy dream :)
DG
9th October 2006, 21:02
why are there BF2142 threads here, it's not a SD game, go bitch on their forums, these forums are for whining about ET:QW demo release :wink:
Pass the time while we wait? Periods are our friends btw.
bane of the month more like
Got-JuicE
10th October 2006, 02:37
I can't get past the part with the ladder at the first part, danm this game is hard.
Evil69
10th October 2006, 14:56
Allow me to shed a little more light on what is 2142 and ill even suggest the real reason why ETQW is delayed.
Before I begin, its important to note that I am not a battlefield fanboy, I have been playing BF2 in a comp the last year basically due to boredom, but my background is simple, quake, rtcw and et, sadly
I had to pick up bf2 as the clan did.
Anyway, downloaded the 2142 demo, thought it wouldnt hurt to have a look, installed it and here is the next 45 minutes highlited for you.
1 - joined server after 10 minutes of optimizing shaders, not bad considering my rig is pretty darn good
2 - joined a team, selected the engineer kit, ran 3 feet and got disconnected from the ea master server
3 - rejoined server
4 - played 1 minute, disconnected from ea master server
I wont go on, but the above went on for a while, eventually after smashing the keyboard I left and went and watched blackhawk down for the 3rd time.
Next day, few clan mates were on ventrilo and playing the demo, so I tried again.
This time I lasted an hour before the disconnection from ea server kicked in.... so heres the game in a nutshell.
Its bf2 with some new models, skins and maps, all the bugs present in bf2 are here in 2142, titan mode is a little more interesting than cap the dam flag but typically they only half got it right, should have made it a must to board the thing, not a if you want to win quicker, the weapons are seriously spray and pray and completely noobified, you can go prone, into iron sight and drill someone from 5 feet at their head, even using burst fire and half the time they dont die. The aircraft are noobified and flyable by anyone that can manage to move a mouse, the graphics are pretty ordinary, even on my pc with settings on high its still pretty rank, the lighting is ordinary as well, in fact, who ever developed the models and textures needs to realise this is not 1998.
When I heard that ETQW was delayed I was somewhat surprised, I thought it would be out in time to kill of 2142, a early release would have to bump up ETQW sales, but its now obvious whats happened, SD have managed to be part of the 2142 beta and realised its crap, that day they announced that ETQW would be delayed, after all, why throw in the over time when your at no risk at all of the competition beating you.
That said, be nice if you gents released the ETQW demo soon, with all the battlefield fans waiting for the final version, a demo now would stop many buying 2142 and have them playing the ETQW demo instead, hell even if the full version of ETQW takes another 3 plus months, it would beat having to play 2142, I am sure thousands world wide would agree there.
rancid_elf
10th October 2006, 15:28
Well at the moment SD are gamers making games....It always starts like that.
I started programming games back in 1982 and I have seen so many companies go the same way. If you dont sell out and do as the publishers want they will shut you down. Something along those lines happened to one of the great companies I worked for..Sensible Software...It always happens... Sell out or be pushed out.
Give it a few years and you might even be saying the same about SD when there is a big publisher behind them pushing for results. Developing games these days is serious money. Development houses need teh backing of the publishers to do that development because not many of the indipendant companies can afford full development themselves. When this happens they recieve funding from teh publishes on mile stones set out...even then in most cases teh publishes will give stiff milestones and you have to follow them.
Thats why most companies end up selling out because the end result is not a massive profit for the developers so the founders ( after many years of hard graft ) see that nice pot at the end of the rainbow in a sell out deal and thats sorted their pensions & mansion & big cars :)
There really are not many people nowadays still have the clout to decide what they are going to put in a game and how long it will take. Thankfully SD has a big backer and one that understands. There are people like Peter Molonuex also who did once sell out but that put him in a position to decide when and how he could develop games as Lionhead.
God why cant we go back to the days of small teams and bedroom games...O and assembly...hummmmm assembly
Nail
10th October 2006, 15:50
This is not an EA/Dice forum, none of the BF series are SD games, why are you wasting my time with this crap ?
Do you think bashing someone else's game will make you look like heroes to SD ?
I tire of all this whining, if the series was as bad as the spoiled little brats keep saying it is, no one would play it. As it is, thousands do.
Just get over it.
:moo:
Joe999
10th October 2006, 15:50
When I heard that ETQW was delayed I was somewhat surprised, I thought it would be out in time to kill of 2142, a early release would have to bump up ETQW sales, but its now obvious whats happened, SD have managed to be part of the 2142 beta and realised its crap, that day they announced that ETQW would be delayed, after all, why throw in the over time when your at no risk at all of the competition beating you.
That said, be nice if you gents released the ETQW demo soon, with all the battlefield fans waiting for the final version, a demo now would stop many buying 2142 and have them playing the ETQW demo instead, hell even if the full version of ETQW takes another 3 plus months, it would beat having to play 2142, I am sure thousands world wide would agree there.
as i see it, the demo will come when it's time for it to be released and not earlier. SD haven't put 3 years into work to rush out a game only to compete with another EA/Dice piece of crap that was put together within a few months to get the game out for the christmas holiday sales. QW's time will come and it will uber-pwn :tapir:
edit: and what Nail said :D
Shopkeeper
10th October 2006, 16:35
The ETQW demo (If it's actually will be one), will probably not be released until about 3 or 4 weeks before release. Anyway, I play the BF2142 Demo and will buy BF2142 simply because it will be the best game with that setting on the market atm. ET:QW will probably be released in March 2007 and I need some games to play until then. ;-)
kamikazee
10th October 2006, 16:40
"Best" is relative...
And I can't stop to sugest W:ET, it's still one of the better games. You just need to find a server which fits you.
Joe999
10th October 2006, 17:14
will buy BF2142 simply because it will be the best game with that setting on the market atm
definitely not best in gameplay. so i'm curious: best in what? which setting?
Pytox
10th October 2006, 17:35
Does anybody want a BF 2142 demo video to have a laugh? :P
madness
10th October 2006, 18:39
sure we do.
Brandon
10th October 2006, 19:34
The Banny Hill theme song would fit in very nicely :P
SCDS_reyalP
10th October 2006, 21:32
This is not an EA/Dice forum, none of the BF series are SD games, why are you wasting my time with this crap ?
You are the one choosing to read and post in a thread with BF2142 in the title, so you are the one responsible for any of your time it might have wasted.
If the SD guys thought it didn't belong in the forum, I'm sure they'd let us know. Absent that, you certainly aren't in a position to say what belongs here.
Many of us enjoy talking about our experiences in different FPS games. Because it has a similar theme, BF2142 invites comparison to ET:QW. Reading what another RTCW/ET player thinks about BF2142 gives me different perspective than reading what a dedicated BF player thinks about it. There is also a feeling that, since the games will be in competition, if we let SD know the things we do and don't like about BF2142, it might affect how ET:QW comes out.
I do agree that the posts that consist of OMGZ IT SUX with no elaboration don't add anything to the discussion.
Got-JuicE
10th October 2006, 23:24
Agreed
TheKaiser
10th October 2006, 23:29
Hmm, I thought this was the general discussion section of the forums?
Nail
11th October 2006, 00:45
Fair enough, considering some of the SD guys play the BF series, but all I've seen is whine, whine, bitch, bitch. They are completely different games, I see no comparison other than guns and the future, UT has the same. I played BF2 demo for a while and thought it was fun, unfortunately only the tank was at all accurate and even then having a shell arc over 200 meters was very unrealistic for something with a 5 km range, I decided it wasn't my cup of tea. My apologies to all the people I've somehow offended by being tired of thread after thread after thread of BF nonsense in a SD forum, you guys go ahead, but once, just once I'd like to hear anything that wasn't "OMG it Succzors, QW is so much better" (as if we didn't already know that)
btw, I still reserve the right to bitch about what I perceive to be nonsense
:moo:
JBRAA
11th October 2006, 01:14
The purpose of a boycott is to repeat the story to other people, till the thing you are boycotting for is changed
So as long the thread is about BF, and as long as EA makes low quality, get used to hearing people telling they are not happy with it.
Do you say "shut it" "or get over it" to ankers on TV when they tell you about war in the world?
Nail
11th October 2006, 04:24
absotively, that and much more, and all in capitals
Eddmarkus
11th October 2006, 06:34
damn, it was shit! it was just like bf2, exacly the same xpt the models and sounds, and its a new game?! never, its a freakin bf2 mod!!!
FU EA!
rancid_elf
11th October 2006, 10:19
Well I have been playing BF2 for over a year now. Prior to that I played C:ET for about a year but to be honest BF2, in my mind, is more fun. C:ET is a haven for script kiddies and sad little twats who like to use aim bots and hacks.
BF2 is now becoming like that and I know my time with it is limited because as soon as I start quitting out of games because of hackers is the day I uninstall it.
I will NOT be downloading the BF2142 demo or buying the game for that because I tried the beta version and I played for about 1 hour before deciding it was a complete waste of time.
I personally will be waiting for QW to arrive and will be moving over to that. I have a lot of faith that QW will be a great gaming experience after my experience with C:ET. The balance of the maps etc far outweigh those in BF series and the objectives and team work eliments in teh game is what I enjoy more in a game.
Dont get me wrong I love BF2 I do enjoy the sandbox part of the game it means I can play it my way and not be limited when on a side with smacktards but BF2142 or QW in my mind is equivalent to....hummm...which would I prefre in bed... Margaret Thatcher or
Jennifer Garner...lol no contest :)
ayatollah
11th October 2006, 10:55
Well I have been playing BF2 for over a year now. Prior to that I played C:ET for about a year but to be honest BF2, in my mind, is more fun. C:ET is a haven for script kiddies and sad little twats who like to use aim bots and hacks.
BF2 is now becoming like that and I know my time with it is limited because as soon as I start quitting out of games because of hackers is the day I uninstall it.
I will NOT be downloading the BF2142 demo or buying the game for that because I tried the beta version and I played for about 1 hour before deciding it was a complete waste of time.
I personally will be waiting for QW to arrive and will be moving over to that. I have a lot of faith that QW will be a great gaming experience after my experience with C:ET. The balance of the maps etc far outweigh those in BF series and the objectives and team work eliments in teh game is what I enjoy more in a game.
Dont get me wrong I love BF2 I do enjoy the sandbox part of the game it means I can play it my way and not be limited when on a side with smacktards but BF2142 or QW in my mind is equivalent to....hummm...which would I prefre in bed... Margaret Thatcher or
Jennifer Garner...lol no contest
WTF is C:ET?
madness
11th October 2006, 14:08
Colfenstein: Enemy Territory
Evil69
11th October 2006, 16:18
Nail
Mate I find people like you rather funny, I posted in a thread dedicated to the bf2142 demo, the thread asked had anyone played it, people have been giving their opinion of the game, I posted giving my opinion last I looked forums such as these are about discussion in which people give their opinion, my post gave my opinion backed by what I didnt like about, my post was not merely a bash Battlefield like you seem to think.
Its truly amazing how someone can come along to a discussion forum, provide an opinion and be told to not do so by someone like you who finds it annoying to read an opinion on a discussion forum because its an opinion you do not like, so your tired of the whinging? Sorry to hear that, but you choose to open the thread and read the post, nobody forced you into this, if you dont want to read peoples opinions then do not do so.
Further, coming into a thread stating your tired of hearing an opinion futher suggests that perhaps you should not be visiting a discussion forum, add to that, coming into a thread and stating "if the series was as bad as the spoiled little brats keep saying it is" well, I dont understand you, your tired of peoples opinions but you dont mind calling someone a little brat for posting an opinion you dont like.
For the record champ I am 46 years old, I do not think that puts me in the little bratt category and considering my annual income I dont think I can be placed in the spoilt category either.
It is interesting that you say "you reserve the right to bitch about anything you find nonsense" yet nobody else has the right to post their opinion in a discussion forum which is all about discussion and opinions.
To my thinking, to come along into a discussion thread and have digs at people, calling them spoilt little brats and telling them to shut up and get over it, but to then reserve the right to bitch about whatever you like simply makes such a person a hypocrite. May I suggest that perhaps you do not read threads you may find offense and perhaps avoid forums altogether, may be you should stick to msn.
Cheers
Sauron|EFG
11th October 2006, 16:27
Nail is the new Daz/Tavington. ;)
Nail
11th October 2006, 17:14
:lol: I hear he's still about, last thing I heard, he was bashing online dating
Evil69:
For the record, I'm 55 years old and while I'm not spoilt, my kids sure are
You have your opinion, I have mine, mine is different than yours
You like to feel superior by denigrating another publishers offerings, I like to bitch about it
it's all fun here on the interweb
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